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FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

  1. Why are Panasonic Fans so quiet?
  2. Why is input wattage so low on Panasonic Fans?
  3. Why do Panasonic Fans have such a long life?
  4. What is a sone?
  5. Can we install a Panasonic fan in a wall as well as in the ceiling?
  6. Can a timer be used with a Panasonic fan?
  7. Can a speed control be used with the Panasonic fans?
  8. Can we get a motion detector or a humidity sensor on the Panasonic fans?
  9. Can a Panasonic fan be used over bathtubs and showers?
  10. Can insulation material be used over fans installed in the ceiling?
  11. Can a Panasonic fan be used above a kitchen range?
  12. How do we select the right fan model for a specific room size and duct length?
  13. What is Static Pressure and how does it affect the type and size of duct I should use with my Panasonic fan?
  14. How can we determine how much duct we should allow for?
  15. How do I use the tables in Question 12 if I have cathedral ceilings?
  16. What does indoor air quality mean and why do I care?
  17. I have heard of water dripping from the grille or mirrors not clearing quick enough. Is the fan not operating correctly?


Question 1: Why are Panasonic Fans so quiet?

Tip Speed.
Fan noise is created as air passes through the grille and as it enters the blower wheel assembly or fan blade. Much of the noise is a function of blower wheel blade tip speed. The tip speed is affected by the revolutions per minute (RPM) of the wheel or fan blade and the diameter of the wheel or fan blade -- a small wheel turning very fast will create more noise than a large wheel turning more slowly for a given airflow. The Panasonic fans use a large diameter, wide blower wheel that moves a large amount of air at reduced RPMs. The motor is also virtually silent. The Panasonic blower wheel is about 60% larger than the competition, but turns at a lower RPM, reducing tip speed and therefore noise.

Blower Size Comparison:

Brand

Height

Diameter

Cubic Inch

Suction

Panasonic

4 1/8

5 7/16

97

Both sides

A

2 1/2

5 9/16

60

One side

B

2

6 1/8

59

One side

RPM Comparison:

Brand

Model

CFM

RPM

Panasonic

FV-08VQ

90

934

A

90

1200

B

90

1050

Double Suction Blower Wheel

Double Suction Blower Wheel

Exhaust Outlet

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Question 2: Why is input wattage so low on Panasonic Fans?

The input wattage readings on the Panasonic fans measured while they are running are the lowest in the industry. That means that, for a given airflow, the Panasonic fans will use fewer kilowatt hours and will virtually always cost less to operate than any other fans. This lower wattage draw is accomplished in a number of ways:

Cutaway of a Panasonic condenser motor

Cutaway of a Panasonic condenser motor

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Question 3: Why do Panasonic Fans have such a long life?

The Panasonic fans are designed to give the consumer trouble-free continuous operation for a minimum of 50,000 hours. In fact, the engineering target for these fans was to provide a fan with at least 100,000 hours of operational life, but they have only been manufactured for about 10 years, so we have not reached 100,000 hours of testing yet. In performance tests at the factory in Japan, fans have been tested after 40, 50, and 60,000 hours of operation and virtually no wear was noted. Several factors contribute to this longevity.

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Question 4: What is a sone?

The sone is an internationally recognized measurement of sound output. Sones translate decibel readings into numbers that correspond to the way people sense loudness.

Sones follow a "linear" scale, like inches. Double the sones is double the loudness. In contrast, decibels follow a "logarithmic" scale which is a multiplying of numbers instead of adding. Sones readings offer easy, quick and accurate comparisons for laymen and engineers.

In technical terms, the sone is equal in loudness to a pure 1,000 cycles per second at tone at 40 decibels above the listener's threshold of hearing. In layman's terms, one sone is equivalent to the sound of a quiet refrigerator in a quiet kitchen (source HVI)

Sound Level Situation

Noise Level
Sone

How we feel

Traffic noise

8.0

Conversation with very loud noise

7.0

6.0

5.0

TV / Radio

4.0

Normal conversation

3.0

General stir in the crowd

Calm office

2.0

1.5

Night in suburbs

1.0

Comfortable zone free from noise

Rustling shrubs

0.5

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Question 5: Can we install a Panasonic fan in a wall as well as in the ceiling?

Panasonic has a new wall fan, the WhisperWallTM, that is currently going through Underwriters Laboratories testing. This will be the choice for wall applications when it becomes available in the market.

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Question 6: Can a timer be used with a Panasonic fan?

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Question 7: Can a speed control be used with the Panasonic fans?

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Question 8: Can we get a motion detector or a humidity sensor on the Panasonic fans?

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Question 9: Can a Panasonic fan be used over bathtubs and showers?

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Question 10: Can insulation material be used over fans installed in the ceiling?

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Question 11: Can a Panasonic fan be used above a kitchen range?

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Question 12: How do we select the right fan model for a specific room size and duct length?

The Home Ventilating Institute (HVI), a trade association representing the manufacturers of 95% of the residential fans in North America, recommends that a bathroom exhaust fan be selected that is capable of providing eight air changes per hour (ACH). Most building codes only require a minimum airflow of 50 cfm from a bathroom, with a capacity of providing five ACH. HVI also recommends that the kitchen ventilation fan (not the rangehood) be sized to provide 15 ACH and in other rooms be sized to provide six ACH. Panasonic feels that the designer should use the more optimal ventilation rates recommended by HVI. The following tables reflect the HVI sizing guidelines and assume metal duct and a reasonable roof jack or weather cap. If flexible or semi-rigid duct is used, add ten feet of duct run for your fan selection calculation to allow for the higher static pressure created.

Table A: Bathroom fan sizing and selection (to achieve 8 ACH as per HVI)

Bathroom Rigid metal duct length from fan to cap
Sq Ft 10 feet 20 feet 30 feet 40 feet
50 05VQ2 05VQ2 05VQ2 07VQ2
60 07VQ2 07VQ2 07VQ2 07VQ2
70 07VQ2 08VQ2 08VQ2 08VQ2
80 08VQ2 08VQ2 11VQ2 11VQ2
90 11VQ2 20VQ2 20VQ2 20VQ2
100 20VQ2 20VQ2 20VQ2 20VQ2
140 20VQ2 20VQ2 20VQ2 20VQ2
180 20VQ2 20VQ2 35VQ2 or 11 + 20VQ2 35VQ2 or 11 + 20VQ2
240 35VQ2 or 11 + 20VQ2 35VQ2 or 11 + 20VQ2 35VQ2 or 2-20VQ2 35VQ2 or 2-20VQ2
300 35VQ2 or 2-20VQ2 2-20VQ2 2-20VQ2 2-20VQ2

Assumes eight foot ceilings.
Duct diameter is four inch for 05/07/08/11VQ fans, six inch for 20/35VQ fans.
If flexible or semi-rigid duct is used, add ten feet of duct run.

Example:
Eight foot by ten foot master bathroom = 80 square feet
Twenty feet of four inch metal duct from the fan to the gable end cap
Enter Table A at 80 square feet and go across to 20 feet of duct.
The recommended fan is the FV-08VQ2 fan or the FV-08VQL fan/light combo
If flexible ducting is used, such as aluminum flex or insulated plastic flex, add ten feet to the duct run and go over to 30 feet of duct. This means that the fan should be upsized to the FV-11VQ2 fan or the FV-11VQL fan light combo.

Table B: Other room fan sizing and selection (except kitchens and baths. Including spaces such as living rooms, utility rooms, large closets, etc.) (to achieve 6 ACH)

Room Rigid metal duct length from fan to cap
Sq Ft 10 feet 20 feet 30 feet 40 feet
50 05VQ2 05VQ2 05VQ2 07VQ2
60 05VQ2 05VQ2 05VQ2 07VQ2
70 07VQ2 07VQ2 07VQ2 07VQ2
80 07VQ2 07VQ2 07VQ2 07VQ2
90 07VQ2 08VQ2 08VQ2 08VQ2
100 07VQ2 08VQ2 11VQ2 11VQ2
140 20VQ2 20VQ2 20VQ2 20VQ2
180 20VQ2 20VQ2 20VQ2 20VQ2
240 20VQ2 20VQ2 35VQ2 or 2-20VQ2 35VQ2 or 2-20VQ2
300 35VQ2 or 2-20VQ2 35VQ2 or 2-20VQ2 35VQ2 or 2-20VQ2 35VQ2 or 2-20VQ2

Assumes eight foot ceilings.
Duct diameter is four inch for 05/07/08/11VQ fans, six inch for 20/35VQ fans.
If flexible or semi-rigid duct is used, add ten feet of duct run.

Example:
Twelve foot by twenty foot family room = 240 square feet
Twenty feet of six inch metal duct from the fan to the gable end cap
Enter Table B at 240 square feet and go across to 20 feet of duct.
The recommended fan is the FV-20VQ2 fan.
If flexible ducting is used, such as aluminum flex or insulated plastic flex, add ten feet to the duct run and go over to 30 feet of duct. This means that the fan should be upsized to the FV-35VQ2 fan or two FV-20VQ fans should be used to get the total flow needed.

Table C: Kitchen fan sizing and selection (not rangehood flow) (to achieve 15 ACH)
Kitchen Rigid metal duct length from fan to cap
Sq Ft 10 feet 20 feet 30 feet 40 feet
50 11VQ2 11VQ2 20VQ2 20VQ2
60 20VQ2 20VQ2 20VQ2 20VQ2
70 20VQ2 20VQ2 20VQ2 20VQ2
80 20VQ2 20VQ2 20VQ2 20VQ2
90 20VQ2 20VQ2 20VQ2 35VQ2
100 20VQ2 35VQ2 35VQ2 35VQ2
140 35VQ2 35VQ2 35VQ2 35VQ2
180 2-20VQ2 2-20VQ2 2-20VQ2 2-20VQ 2
240 20+35VQ2 20+35VQ2 2-35VQ2 2-35VQ 2
300 2-35VQ2 2-35VQ2 2-35VQ2 2-35VQ2

Assumes eight foot ceilings.
Duct diameter is four inch for 11VQ fans, six inch for 20/35VQ fans.
If flexible or semi-rigid duct is used, add ten feet of duct run.

Example:
Ten foot by ten foot kitchen area = 100 square feet
Ten feet of six inch metal duct from the fan to the gable end cap
Enter Table C at 100 square feet and go across to 10 feet of duct.
The recommended fan is the FV-20VQ2 fan.
If flexible ducting is used, such as aluminum flex or insulated plastic flex, add ten feet to the duct run and go over to 20 feet of duct. This means that the fan should be upsized to the FV-35VQ2 fan.

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Question 13: What is Static Pressure and how does it affect the type and size of duct I should use with my Panasonic fan?

fan curve

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Question 14: How can we determine how much duct we should allow for?

The allowable duct length is calculated by the Equivalent Duct Length method. This means that you measure the distance the duct needs to run and then count the number of elbows. Take the measured length of the run and add seven feet for each four inch elbow or ten feet for each six inch elbow. Add ten feet if you are using flexible duct rather than smooth metal duct. We have already included the pressure drop of a common roof jack or wall cap, but poor caps such as mushroom vents may add as much as 60 feet of equivalent length. Add these lengths together to give the equivalent length of duct. Use it in Tables A, B, or C in Question 12 above.

For example, if you have ten feet of duct run with four inch ducts and one 90degrees elbow, you add seven feet to the ten foot duct run and use the 20 feet column above.

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Question 15: How do I use the tables in Question 12 if I have cathedral ceilings?

Tables A, B, and C are based on eight foot ceilings. You can calculate the volume of the space (length x width x average ceiling height) and compare it to the volume of the listed room sizes to see which fan you should use. A simple rule of thumb is to just upsize the fan one model for a 10-14 foot ceiling and go up to sizes for higher ceilings.

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Question 16: What does indoor air quality mean and why do I care?

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Question 17: I have heard of water dripping from the grille or mirrors not clearing quick enough. Is the fan not operating correctly?

Panasonic WhisperLite concepts and advantages

Panasonic now introduces the "WhisperLite" series as an addition to our ventilating line. The key features of WhisperLite includes:

1. Super Quiet
2. Low input Wattage
3. Long Life & Continuous Operation
4. Energy Efficient, Color Corrected Fluorescent Lamps

Comparison data of energy consumption with conventional light combo fan.

Brand Body Lamps Total
Panasonic WhisperLite 18 watt 26 watt 44 watt
Brand A(Incandescent lamp combo fan) 60 watt 100 watt 160 watt
Brand B(Fluorescent lamp combo fan) 60 watt 23 watt 83 watt

ventilating fan watt comparison

2) How much we can save annual energy costs?

Case 1: Residential house 3 fans for 3 bathrooms
Panasonic (8 Hours/day x 365 days x 44 watt x 10cent/K.watt x 3 sets)/1000= $38.54
Brand A
(8 hours/day x 365days x 160 watt x 10cet/K.watt x 3 sets)/1000= $140.16

Annual saving $101.62 

annual energy costs

Case 2: Hotel bath room capacity 100 guest rooms
Panasonic
(8 hours/day x 365 days x 44 watt x 10 cent/K.watt x 100 rooms)/1000= $1,284.80
Brand A
(8 hours/dayx365days x 160 watt x 10 cent/K.watt x 100 rooms)/1000= $4,672.00

Annual saving $3,387.20

annual costs

2. Long life:

Like Panasonic's Super-Quiet series, the WhisperLite series fan has been factory tested at more than 30,000 hours of continuos operation. And Panasonic's fluorescent lamp (included with WhisperLite) is rated at 10,000 hours.

Life of motor & lamps

Type of light combo fan Lamp Motor
Panasonic WhisperLite
Brand A Incandescent lamp/fan combo
Brand B Fluorescent lamp/fan combo
10,000 hours
1000 hours
10,000 hours
30,000 plus hours
10,000 hours
10,000 hours

Replacement period

  Lamp Motor
Panasonic WhisperLite
Incandescent lamp/fan combo
every 3.4 years
every 4 months
10 plus years
3.4 years

Panasonic uses long life color coated steel for body construction to prevent rust.

3. Quiet operation:
Panasonic WhisperLite have taken several measures to reduce the noise level such as a totally enclosed condenser motor, large size fan casing with low RPM, and totally sealed body casing. These measures help to eliminate noise.

4. Why we include two Panasonic fluorescent lamps:
Panasonic provides added convenience and comfort for contractors and end users. While competitor models do not include lamps, Panasonic's WhisperLite includes two Panasonic color corrected fluorescent lamps (model # FDS13E27.U/2). These lamps put out over 1700 lumens (equivalent to two 60-watt incandescent bulbs) and have a rated life of 10,000 hours.

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